Agility and the Big Dog

You said: "[Design with OOP] is like trying to speak English without using adjectives or adverbs".
I am inclined to disagree. Subclassing is a good way of introducing adjectives (superclass Car with subclasses BlueCar, FastCar, BadCar), and you get adverbs by overriding methods. You won't see it in the method names, but my guess is that the implementation of "run()" in BadCar really is "runBadly()", etc. A BlueCar probably doesn't override run()...
What say ye?

Mr B, I'm an experienced TDD'er / Agile coach, I find that I usually have a different view of the goal of OOP to more architectually driven folk. What do *you* think the goal of OOP is?

Dude. Blue is an attribute. Are you going to spin up a new type every time DuPont dreams up a new color?

I'm OOF for the next couple of days, and I'm catching the 6:55 from SNA (which is odd because SNA can't...

...but what kind of animal is a Service Data Object? Seriously - like Don says, "Get over your OO obsession."

I always loved Tim Ewald's statement (I think it was him) that nobody buys a system based on how object oriented it is.

Keith,

Alas, people now DO buy systems based on how SOA it is...

DB

Hi Don,

Can it now be said that having been quoted by Don Box my life is now complete?

Yeah, probably not. But its cool none the less :) Thanks!

I should note that I did "come clean" in a follow-up > http://www.xsltblog.com/archives/2005/11/followup_to_oop_1.html < post that I over exagerated my OOP is not agile statement quite a bit as to generate responses from folks who would normally not respond if not for such blatant innaccuracies such as this.

BTW... I'm really diggin' the direction you have taken with your 'Scheme is Love' post as well as the follow-up. My bio > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2354 < on my O'Reilly blog shoud help make sense as to why. You might also appreciate the following two pieces >http://www.xsltblog.com/archives/2005/10/project_logo_of_1.html < and > http://www.xsltblog.com/archives/2005/10/scheme_is_love.html

Mark

Agility and the Big Dog Which, following Don's point would instead read: An Entry from Don Box Accurate? Ummm... partially. Descriptive. What do you think? I still find myself occasionally having to remind people that objects are at best a...

I share Don's opinion but from an opposite perspective. I think OO is the cats meow, however I think the term object is too rigidly defined. Why can't adjectives and adverbs be objects? Sounds like 'Decorators' to me. As the band Disturbed proclaims "Liberate your mind, Mother Bleeper, your so narrow minded, so narrow minded".
I think living the COM lifestyle teaches one to design with Objects but in a liberated fashion.
Vive la COM!

>> I think living the COM lifestyle teaches one to design with Objects but in a liberated fashion.
Vive la COM! <<

Amen to that! (see: http://www.xsltblog.com/archives/2005/11/all_right_thats.html for even more of an "Amen!")

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